Some Suggestions for Getting through Suboxone Withdrawal

Some Suggestions for Getting through Suboxone Withdrawal

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Suboxone is typically used to help addicts detox from opiate drugs such as painkillers or heroin.  It is a partial synthetic opiate that is designed to take away the detox symptoms that usually come from withdrawal.  Most people who have tried it agree that it works pretty good for this.  Some people take the drug over the long term in order to stay off of other opiate drugs and/or heroin.  In this way it can be used as a maintenance drug to help people stay clean.  The drug is pretty expensive though and some people do not want to take it forever, so they might one day try to stop using it altogether.

If you are going through Suboxone withdrawal then here are some suggestions for you.  The best idea is for you to taper off of the Suboxone in very slow increments so that your body does not experience heavy withdrawal symptoms.

For example, in a drug rehab center, they typically use Suboxone in order to detox addicts from opiate based drugs.  What they will do in many cases is to eventually put the patient on a taper schedule, so that they get a decreasing amount of the medication every day.  In the vast majority of cases, this taper dose works fine and the addict may experience only slight discomfort as the dose is decreased every day.  Generally, the dose drops by 2 milligrams per day.

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Now if this is not working for you and is producing severe withdrawal symptoms, then you might want to continue with the taper but just slow it down.  You can do this by carefully cutting the pills and dropping the dose by 1 milligram per day instead of 2.  That way you are tapering off more slowly and you are also extending the time that you are doing the taper by double the amount of days.

Eventually you have to take the last pill and be done with it, if your intention is really to get off of the Suboxone completely. If you have been taking Suboxone as a maintenance pill for a long time, then this is going to be hard no matter what, and no matter how much you taper down.  The bottom line is that you are going to have to go through some level of discomfort and simply tough it out.  If you taper down as slowly as possible and you are still miserable, then you have a simple choice.  Go back on the medication or tough it out and get through the withdrawal.

It is probably worth it for most people to try and go through with this last little bit and get completely free of the chemical.  Won’t it be nice to not have to rely on a pill in order to feel normal?  You can get back to that point if you are willing to go through some level of discomfort.  Otherwise you will continue to have to depend on an expensive medication in order to just feel normal in your life.  Freedom is a wonderful thing.

 

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  1. Hey, im glad to see i am not alone in this crazy stuff. I have been on subs for 3 yrs to get off of oxys. Now im trying to kick this sub habit as well. I also feel like the doctor is just a legal dealer. This is day 3 n i am feeling really irritable alot of anxiety rls which sux i keep punching my leg to make it stop. cant eat dont want to be around noone very depressed plus i have no support because my mom n stepdad say u dont get withdrawal from subs i got so mad i wanted to break his jaw even tho i have no energy to do it. its like the people that never experienced what we addicts go through have no idea. It is easy to say u get no withdrawal n u can just stop cold turkey if they never went through it i dont know what to do i have no support.. Is there anything to help the withdrawal process easier? I would really appreciate it.

    • Yea I’m so pissed too. I been on subs for 2 years to get off heroin. I just was in rehab for 10 days to detox. 5 of the days they gave me methadone. The first day without nothing was the worst. My legs wouldn’t stop kicking and I had shooting pains. Sweating and chills as well. I didn’t sleep for 3 days because of skin crawls. I’m on day 6 and the leg pains stopped but I have no energy. It does get better just takes longer

  2. Suboxone is a terrible addictive drug. it is ruining my son and my husbands lives. They run out and the withdrawal is horrible. My son cannot get out pf bed because he hurts so bad, and he cries or gets very antsy. Then he finds more subs and all is well until he runs out again. it is a very vicious cycle. This drug was invented to make drug companies rich because once you are on them, you never want to stop and the doctors who prescribe them are money hungry too. Most do not take insurance and the visits range from $375 a month. It is crazy. I have yet to meet anyone who has successfully been able to beat the addiction to Suboxone.

    • I know this post is old, but I felt compelled to give
      some words of encouragement. Trust me, if their will is strong enough, they can
      beat it. I was on it for 7+ years…..inducted at 16 mg, then tapered
      myself to 12, then to 8 where I stayed for about 4 years. I felt really
      nothing dropping those amounts, however, I had had enough and decided to cold
      turkey it from the 8mg on August 26, 2014. I knew my Dr. had no
      intentions of ever “forcing” me to take the leap off this medicine, and
      honestly, reading the forums trying to find the magic information to help me
      break free from this medicine, is what kept me chained to this medicine so
      long……I was terrified of the withdrawals….I didn’t have time for it (so I
      suggest keeping them off the forums where people describe all the craziness
      they will go through…..just look at it like it’s a terrible flu and there’s
      nothing that can be done about it except to let it run its course).

      I personally couldn’t successfully taper
      because the minute I started feeling discomfort, I’d just take more
      (although it works for many). I was really just at a pivotal point
      where I was sick and tired of being sick and tired and knew the subs were
      killing me physically, emotionally, and spiritually (I had lost any and
      all interests I had in life and felt I was merely existing). I
      had a script at the pharmacy that I never filled and had a couple left
      that I flushed. It wasn’t easy and the drawn out withdrawals are a
      mental & physical roller coaster, but now at nearly 90 days, the
      only lingering issues I have are some digestive problems (which is actually
      just my body reversing the effects of everything being backed up for so long
      while on Sub….so I’ll take it) and an intermittent slight lack of
      motivation (but I attribute that to the cold weather hitting us so hard and
      soon….I’ve always had a slight bout of seasonal depression….so I’m sure
      that will remedy itself come spring). I only missed one day of work and I
      did this while taking care of my 2 young grandchildren everyday (5 and
      7). I also decided not to take any other medication to help with the
      withdrawals….I wanted my body to be completely void of any
      pharmaceuticals…..so I’m pretty sure I suffered a little more than I probably
      had to. I will be completely honest, about 2.5 weeks in, I did get
      some medicinal marijuana from someone, which helped with the nausea and allowed
      me to finally eat and get some well needed sleep. I only did this 3 times
      to get me through the roughest patch. I’m not an advocate of recreational
      use, but for medicinal purposes I’m now a strong advocate.

      They will go through all
      the things that people describe, but there is light at the end of the
      tunnel. And most importantly, I never had the urge to
      relapse….actually I had the opposite happen. I wanted nothing
      “poisonous” in my body and have started eating much healthier and
      plan on starting to work out very soon. And it feels so liberating and freeing
      to cut ties with this little orange film that literally ran my life for 7 years!
      I now go to bed at a decent time, sleep all through the night, get up early
      refreshed and ready to tackle whatever comes my way. Oh, and I lost 20 of the
      pounds I gained while on Subs and have kept it off and am losing more
      weekly. So in closing, yes it’s rough, but the rewards far outweigh the
      discomfort they will go through for about 30 days or so. I’m cheering
      them on!

      • My son and my husband are both addicted to suboxone and it is awful. We are in financial trouble because of the cost of the doctor visits and the cost of the pills. My son was off them for two weeks and swears he never started to feel better, pain, body hurts, crying, so he started up again. You are right, the doctor will never taper him off of them because they make thousands of dollars a day from these people. He also has a terrible problem with constipation and can only go every 4 or 5 days. I am at the end of my rope watching my son and my husband be a slave to a pill, it is ruining our lives and I do not know how to convince hin he has to stop. I was addicted to speed twice and both times had to quit cold turkey. it was not a pleasant thing and it did hurt. I still get cravings, but I have been clean from speed for 7 years and if someone offered me some today I would turn it down. We cannot afford rehab and I wouldn’t be able to get my son to go anyway. It is sad when doctors just want to make so much money they keep prescribing them month after month and they are off label for pain because my son was hurt in an accident at work, breaking his hip and fracturing his back. I know they do not work to help pain because my son is still in pain. it is just a mess and I cannot stand to see my son slowly growing away and distant due to his addiction. Thank you for your story, I am going to have my son read it. Please pray.

        • COPIED FROM MY RESPONSE TO YOU POST FROM LAST YEAR ABOVE:

          Gracey, Many people run into this problem because they think they can taper down to 2 mgs or 1 mg and then detox. THIS IS NOT SO. Suboxone is TWENTY-FIVE TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN MORPHINE! MOST Doctors OVERDOSE PATIENTS because they, themselves don’t understand the drug well enough to be rx’ing it and the g/damn’d drug companies WANT people stuck on this stuff ! Find a good slow taper on line, there are a lot of knowledgeable, experienced suboxone patients (and a few doctors) who understand the drug better than MOST doctors do. There are natural remedies to help with mild to moderate withdraw symptoms, BUT ONLY AFTER THEY FOLLOW A PROLONGED AND VERY, VERY SMALL DOSE TAPER. I’ve seen some on-line tapers that go as low as .225mg (yes that is POINT 255 mgs) most stop at .25mgs (again, yes, that is POINT 25 mgs) I also mentioned in a post above, a product that is showing some real promise in treating all kinds of addiction. It is said to rebuild all the neural pathways in the brain that are destroyed by addiction. If you’re interested, the name of the vitamin and mineral product is called SynaptaGenEx. I haven’t come across anyone who has used it but I read some really interesting things about it in the link to the study I posted above, in Amanda Campbell’s post. Good luck to you all (I’m hoping that your husband and your son have found the help they need by now, but I wanted to post just in case your family is still suffering and for any others who may stumble upon your post)

        • You could try this site. I know there is a man on one of these subs sites that has successfully designed tapers for many people. I just cannot remember his user name. If you look around you will find him. Lots of people mention him.

      • Thank you! Your story is exactly what I needed to hear. I won’t be back on the forums and I’m gonna do this. I’m on day 3 now and not looking back.

          • Thanks for your concern.Im about 2 1/2 weeks without Suboxone and still don’t have lots of energy but things are getting better day to day.This is probably the hardest thing I’ve ever done.Suboxone seemed to always put me in a good mood so the hardest thing for me is to stay positive every day and enjoy life.I know it will get better with time or I certainly hope so. Thanks again.

          • You are almost there. I quit cold turkey at a high dose (8mg) long term (7 years) so I’m sure mine drug out a little longer (and I took nothing to help with the symptoms). I started feeling better every day at about the 3 week mark….I would have good days and bad days for about the next 2 weeks or so, but it was definitely not like it was at the starting point. I now take a very good multi-vitamin to help with energy and motivation and it works well. You’ll feel so much better soon! I’ll keep sending good thoughts your way.

          • Thank you very much and any help will be greatly appreciated.Im trying to get back in the gym like I use to be and live a healthy life once more.I use to enjoy exercise before I became addicted so maybe once my energy gets back to normal I’ll enjoy exercise again. Thanks again and I look forward to any tips or words of encouragement you may have.

          • How are you doing? I’m about 8 months out and feel good. I hope you were able to succeed and if not, just dust yourself off and try again.

          • Hello,It’s good to hear from you. It’s been about 4 months for me now and life is good again.I exercise daily and eat right.The pitty for myself and the withdrawals are long gone and I feel great without drugs.That first post of yours that I read helped me more than you will every know.Once I stopped reading other people posts about how long I was gonna be sick with withdrawals, I was able to start healing.Exercise has been the biggest key for me. If you exercise your body everyday you will actually feel better than pain pills and Suboxone will ever make you feel.I really appriciate your kind words and you checking in on me, It means a lot. I’m glad to hear you stayed true to yourself as well. Thanks again.

          • You’re more than welcome! I’m ecstatic to hear you are that far out and going strong! Isn’t it great when you stop counting the hours, days, weeks, months and kind of forget how long it’s been? I actually have to stop and calculate it 🙂

            What a ride huh? It’s unbelievable how strong that stuff takes hold in our bodies and fights to stay there.
            Kudos to you and you are absolutely right that moving and exercise are key……as well as eating healthier!
            Keep on keepin’ on 🙂

    • Gracey, Many people run into this problem because they think they can taper down to 2 mgs or 1 mg and then detox. THIS IS NOT SO. Suboxone is TWENTY-FIVE TIMES MORE POWERFUL THAN MORPHINE! MOST Doctors OVERDOSE PATIENTS because they, themselves don’t understand the drug well enough to be rx’ing it and the g/damn’d drug companies WANT people stuck on this stuff ! Find a good slow taper on line, there are a lot of knowledgeable, experienced suboxone patients (and a few doctors) who understand the drug better than MOST doctors do. There are natural remedies to help with mild to moderate withdraw symptoms, BUT ONLY AFTER THEY FOLLOW A PROLONGED AND VERY, VERY SMALL DOSE TAPER. I’ve seen some on-line tapers that go as low as .225mg (yes that is POINT 255 mgs) most stop at .25mgs (again, yes, that is POINT 25 mgs) I also mentioned in a post above, a product that is showing some real promise in treating all kinds of addiction. It is said to rebuild all the neural pathways in the brain that are destroyed by addiction. If you’re interested, the name of the vitamin and mineral product is called SynaptaGenEx. I haven’t come across anyone who has used it but I read some really interesting things about it in the link to the study I posted above, in Amanda Campbell’s post. Good luck to you all (I’m hoping that your husband and your son have found the help they need by now, but I wanted to post just in case your family is still suffering and for any others who may stumble upon your post)

  3. You should have never taken that last dose of Suboxone. I quit Suboxone using heroin once. I would not recommend it, but it helped for me. Although, I took the heroin for 6 weeks after quitting Suboxone and then I weaned down on the heroin, considerably. Then, I still detoxed for nearly 2 weeks, but totally doable. I didn’t sleep much the first week, but I should of taken a benzo or clonidine.

    Check out my tips for tapering off Suboxone…
    http://irecoverblog.com/suboxone/2014/11/8-steps-to-suboxone-taper/

    • so I’m on day6 of sub detox, nothing in 6 days….today i did one bag of h, haven’t dun h at all in 2+ wks….u think this will affect my sub withdrawal, make it longer or worse? i jus couldn’t take it anymore now I’m like, fuck should i have dun it. it did relieve my withdrawals for a while….

  4. That’s because you were only on suboxone for a few days. (to get off of regular opiates) If you’ve been on suboxone for more than 3 years it’s extremely hard to come off.

    • Suboxone , to me was worse than my 10 year heroine IV habit! I was on them for a year! I am happy you got this down easy & wish you MUCH success! <3

  5. I have been an addict for now 10 years. I have been to rehab. I actually got on Suboxone in 2005 right when it came out. It has been a terrible road a life of pills and cocaine finally beat the alchol by doing Suboxone it just made me lose my craving. I got back on perks/oxy and 10/325 about 13 a day. Went back got back on Suboxone I do beleive in prayer and I do have faith but this drug is wicked the devil himself made this crap. I am down to a 1/4 strip I am ready to be drug free just want to wake up being who I once was. I am close. I changed my diet on a heavy regiment of vitamins and only certain foods I trying it a nutrinolist way. I will let you know in 30 days were I am at. I know I will do it. Have to this time.

  6. hi everyone 12 year back i was put on methadone, i dont even know why i let myself get spoke into it as i was clean from herion for 3 year but i was feeling vulnreable at the time due to unforseen circumstances. I started reducing but got stuck on 18ml and my counceller suggested i went on the suboxine i started at 12mg and for the 1st time in along time i suddenly felt as if i was looking through clear eyes, i had a sudden burst off energy, my bones stopt aching the thing i didnt like was no matter how tierd i felt i couldnt sleep and find it really hard to keep on weighjt apart from that everything had been great .. I started reducing on the suboxine at 2mg a month and my counceller was right they were easier to reduce from until got to 2mg 3 weeks back which i am struggeling with further more next week i am supposed to start takeing a 2mg 1 day then miss a day i am freaking now because i have came so far and thought that was me nearly finished living that life, i have been doing so welll takeing my driving lessons and getting stuck into the house and back on top form with the kids and the school routine, but been on the 2mg really isnt giving me that same feeling i dont ever want to live that life again and been stuck on medication the rest of my life. I want to wake up and feel normal and give my kids the best of me what they deserve they didnt ask to be brought into this world. People may judge and say why have kids if that was the way you were living, but thats the way things turned out and i am so blessed to have my kids, i want for them never to know that part of my life, i want what all parents want for their kids, to give them the best in in life and to give them the best of me but how am i going to do that with all that i have read and heard about withdrawing from suboxine i have googeled it looked on you-tube and all i hear is it can take months even years to be normal that the pain is terrible.So is my only option is to stay on them forever i cant go into rehab i am a single mother i would never leave my kids. So i know i put myself in this position but believe me i am doing my all to make it right.So ye am scared. My counceller has been great and i wouldnt have got this far without her help but it is the after the programme is finished that scares me, i only want to live a normal life and enjoy my time with my kids, family and friends.TO ALL YOU THAT HAVE WON THIS BATTLE WELL DONE.. AND TO ALL YOU FIGHTING I HOPE AND PRAY YOU ALL BEAT IT…. WISHING YOU ALL THE BEST AND I WILL NOT STOP FIGHTING IT UNTIL I AM RID OF IT ALL FOR GOOD Thank you for youre time xxx

    • Amanda getting off subs, is not all horror stories, plenty of people get off them with little discomfort, you just need to do it the right way. The key to getting off subs, is a very slow and patient taper and high doses of the right vitamins and minerals in your system. Look into a product called SynaptaGenEx. It’s really high in the minerals and vitamins you need. It’s designed for all types of addiction, this concoction of vitamins and minerals is said to repair the synaptic pathways in the brain that addiction destroys. I’ll post a link to one study that I read about it. But don’t get all freaked out by what you see on the internet. There are MANY people who have done the taper in the right way and had very little trouble getting off subs. Good luck to everyone. Wish you all an easy road. Here’s 2 different links about the product if anyone is interested:

      http://www.synaptagenx.com/

      http://www.holisticprimarycare.net/topics/topics-o-z/psyche-some-a-spirit/1118-natural-dopaminergic-activator-improves-outcomes-of-addiction-recovery-

  7. Hey, I was put on suboxone for migraines and have been on it for months. Now without it I feel terrible. So I found a place that does a rapid detox from suboxone. Where the put you to sleep and flush it out. I have the procedure next week. So we will see how it goes.

  8. I have been on suboxone since October of 2014 and have been taking about 12 milligrams a day since. I was just recently kicked out of the clinic I have going to with only 2 eight milligram strips left. I have cut them up into small pieces and am going to taper best I can. I have decided to open a blog to chronicle my journey through this hellish nightmare because if there is one thing I know it is this….I will not go back to using opiates. I am so done with that lifestyle, I cannot do it again. I went through hell for two months just getting use to the suboxone…. I still had sweats, no energy, freezing cold while sweating to death, but I did not use. If I could do it then, I will do it now. If anyone out there wants to know what a honest truthful suboxone detox is like, please follow my blog. I am going to see my normal Dr. tomorrow to see about getting some Ambien for sleep help, plus for some reason it also helps with the sweating. Vitamin B6 will help with energy and just in case better have some Imodium on hand. I also stocked up on Gatorade and sweet tea so we can stay hydrated. My blog is at https://gwnsmom.wordpress.com

  9. Thank you.. this was just what I needed to read.. on day 5 of suboxone /subutex withdrawal. . Really it kinda feels like a cold.. oh plus minimum sleep, only able to eat yogurt and drink smoothies But on the upside I am starting to actually feel the hope not just agree to it.. i see the light and I want what others have … freedom. I hope I am on the upswing starting tomorrow. . It will be a beautiful weekend..excited to feel again . Thank you thank you..

  10. Hello All. I know that there are a lot of people asking about the use of Suboxone. whether it’s getting off of it, getting on it, tapering, how long does it take to be able to take again after opiates or vice versa. I am not here to give you a long story but I gone through ALONE what many of you are and really felt the need to help with a long story SHORT the ones that are like me. I will give you a long story short to Explain my situation first for the ones that are not in pain from the withdrawals of Suboxone or Opiates.. Come back & read it later after you feel better. I understand you. I know it hurts to read through all of this to find NO answers. I was there, too! The second part labeled #2 is for you. I know you are in pain & hunting for help… These are the facts of what I have personally done & it worked. Before I begin please read my warning. It is there because it’s REAL! It needs to be looked at before ANYTHING I say! It is SERIOUS and YES, a BIG deal.

    WARNING Note to ALL: I am not a Doctor, I am not medically fit to advise you. I do NOT condone anything illegal because YES it is wrong. There are a reason why they have laws. Laws are meant to protect BOTH You & Others. I am not here to say it’s OK to do something or telling you to break the law or not see a doctor. I advice for you to NOT break the law & PLZZZ see your Doctor. Honesty is the BEST way you can go & it will take you far. I know there are some in strange circumstances… I am here to try & help you. I wish I would have ran into something real on here when I needed it instead of a bunch of… BS. Remember, everyone’s body & past lifestyle is different… what may have worked for me… May not work for you… Please see a doctor first & foremost!

    I am writing all of this based on my personal experiences, alone & with my integrity. Those that do not know what integrity is… here it is. It is a value & law that you have formed in your life from your own experiences. If you have done something & it did not work but you are telling people it did… That is not integrity.

    To Start, I am 36 years old… almost 37. I have Chronic HEP C & have had it for sometime, now. 🙁 Did it to myself… I am living with my choices. I am a past addict. My DOC was heroin. I was on Heroin & Meth for many years. 8 Ball a day. It was all ( except at first) IV drug use. I weigh 120 lbs. and I am 5′ 4″. YES, this matters! Today, my life is different & I never want to go back to that. Since then married & 2 kids…Home & a LONG checklist of stuff I had to fix and I still working on. Off Heroin for 7 years! That’s LONG , SHORT!!

    Email me if you need help! I will help you. If looking for a good rehab ( if you really want to stop)… Narcanon in Harington, TX or wherever is closest! They are GREAT! Withdrawals GONE in 2 weeks!!! I Swear to you! Amazing! Drugless, too!

    If your not ready to stop, don’t waste your money but please be safe …but don’t wait to long… It’s OK my friend. There are people that are right where you are! Be strong.. when you can!

    Part 1) For the ones not in Pain… Continues from the top… Meaning >>> ( integrity = Integrity is the quality of being honest and having strong moral principles; moral uprightness. It is generally a personal choice to uphold oneself to consistently moral and ethical standards.[1]
    In ethics, integrity is regarded by many people as the honesty and truthfulness or accuracy of one’s actions. Integrity can stand in opposition to hypocrisy,[2] in that judging with the standards of integrity involves regarding internal consistency as a virtue, and suggests that parties holding within themselves apparently conflicting values should account for the discrepancy or alter their beliefs.
    The word integrity evolved from the Latin adjective integer, meaning whole or complete.[3] In this context, integrity is the inner sense of “wholeness” deriving from qualities such as honesty and consistency of character. As such, one may judge that others “have integrity” to the extent that they act according to the values, beliefs and principles they claim to hold.
    A value system’s abstraction depth and range of applicable interaction may also function as significant factors in identifying integrity due to their congruence or lack of congruence with
    observation. A value system may evolve in a while, [4] while retaining integrity if those who espouse the values account for and resolve inconsistencies.[

    I stopped heroin 7 years ago. it was hard but asked for help ( My first time…as I do love my family & never wanted them to see me that way. I was an Escort to support my HUGE habit. Took advantage of myself & others.. One day I wanted to stop. I was ” Tired”. The hustle to not get sick, the BS you have to deal with .. WOW. It after YEARS finally just caught up with me. I made my first call in years to my family that did not even know if I was still living or not to ask for help.

    Important~ If you are on dope… Please don’t hurt your family by bringing them into your habit. No, you more than likely do not feel like they love you. It’s not that though… at least was not for me. they just did not know how to stop me. ( My family, Military, Church Going, Hard on you to be a good person.. Impossible to please.. but there after all) Keep away from hurting them! Give everyone that loves you that respect.. I did. I moved away! Far away….even went under a different name.

    They will possibly be the only ones there for you later… If you still have them.. ME , I was lucky.. It took a few calls & active searching. The rehab called them for me.. when all failed. Then, I got help. They started thinking I was really.. possibly serious. I Missed my plane to get there 3x. I did not do it on purpose but I feel I was maybe scared and.. it just happened that way. I got there, though. I was terrified! Alone. I never even saw my family until after I was done 3 months after!

    I did great in re-hab. I wanted to be there, though. THAT is the KEY! They were AMAZING & gave me these vitamins & a drink made of magnesium, Calcium, apple vinegar & water. It made the vitamins BLOW up through my body. 2 weeks my withdrawals were GONE!!! ALL of them!! I learned while I was there that most withdrawals are merely a vitamin issue & lack there of! YUP! I will post at sometime that drink for anyone that needs it… Just message me!

    Well, this past two years have been hell, being an old addict I had a lot of fixing to do. 10 years on Heroin.. 8 on Meth & the other 8 before Many other things…Acid, cocaine, you name it. Ketamine & all.. IN MY SYSTEM. I lost 18 years of my life! I only really remember 1/3 of it.. lots of regret, man! If you understand this, we can talk just Email me. I have found ways to cope with it all. I will never be 100% ” Normal”… But I am ME & I am a good person. That is what matters today!

    Well, surgery after surgery, Hep C & All! OMG. My ” Bad Behavior” Caught up with me. It will eventually! You are not exempt. I felt I was. It was part of the lie I told myself for years!

    Here come the pain Meds. I needed them. I was in so much pain. Honestly. Appendix ruptured split wide open & other major surgeries similar! CRAZY stuff! It just did not stop. I healed from one another happened. this is life sometimes but it put me in a ” circumstance”.

    I became addicted again. I knew it when I ran out & tried searching for them found them & LIED. I caught myself! I said that no I am never going back! I went to my doctor & was honest. My husband is an alcoholic, I married into three children had one ( He’s 21 now. Lived with my mom.) until I got sober. We had 2 babies together. I hopped from a Full time Junkie to a Full time Mommy.. Ya know what, I am good at it! never thought for a million years, I’d be a mommy of 6.

    This bothered me so bad! I just screwed up! My doctor told me to go through the withdrawls & NOT to go to a Suboxone doctor/. he said, I could refer you, but they make money of you.. using suboxone. I really did not understand that. I just could not ” Go Down”. that’s all I knew! I thought it was non addictive! BOY was I wrong! I thought by getting on it that I could be ok & still be the mommy I needed to be.

    My doc said NO. I even talked to my mother & family about it truly thinking it was the answer. My mother not knowing anything about it either said that getting on it may be right for me because of my home circumstances.. ( My mother, BTW is now my best friend… who again would have ever thought) … after all of this! Anyways, I did something very stupid &

    … Told my mother after. I still was being honest & trying to keep myself in a situation to where I would be held accountable. My mother would hold me accountable. My mother is a very good lady! The most Dynamically correct woman I have ever had the pleasure of getting to know ( I say getting to know because… I have just gotten to know her..)

    I found them illegally. I felt so weird after all these years! Told her, cried to her but being the only one able to run my home, I felt comfortable with my decision & at the time… she really did not like it but understood! Everyone has those moments where in order to survive & be what is expected out of you.. you bend the rules.. Its what had to happen at the time… for me no other choice. the ones that say I did have NO IDEA what the Heck was going on in my life or have been in my shoes so no negative comments please as it is irrelevant! YOU were not there!

    I took the Suboxone. 3 MG a day. The strips. I divided them up. I did not get high. Have not been high. It was merely survival! I thought I was good after 2 weeks & tried to stop… thinking that they are still not addictive. I felt terrible still. My other health problems can be a factor in this too. IDK… This is ALL without the doctors approval.

    Well, I got more. I’d buy an entire script at a time from a heroin Junkie that I happened to bump into that I have know since I was 12 years old. So, Anyways a year later…8 stops to see him.

    Part 2) Now Getting off them.

    I did not think that 3-5 MG was a big deal… I feel for anyone that has taken more! Longer, too! My advice is to go to the hospital! That is my FIRST advice to anyone! Go to a rehab if you can! PLZ.

    symptoms~

    hallucinations ( ROACHES, MAN!) YUP!

    Chills, sweats, Brain Fog, Fever, restlessness, need to rest .. Lifeless. The Exact same as heroin but weirder! Stranger.. Waves! OMG, What have I DONE!!!!

    What I have done without the doctors approval.. I want to be clean! PERIOD! This is not legal & I do not say it’s OK because it is NOT. nothing I have done is OK! I am just here to only tell my story to someone like me….

    I waited a grueling 35 hours! It was terrible! I went and got some oxycodone. After reading several Blogs, this is what I felt I needed to do. I put the advice from all of them summed together wuth what I could do myself. I tapered approx. a MG a day for first week.. NOT fun but.. it’s doable! Taper how your body responds!

    WARNING~ just because you are not feeling it does not mean you need more! Remember also that you can still OD off Oxycodone!

    Started with Oxycodone 30 MG..

    1st day after.. Barely helped. I took a Xanax to ease the pain, too. It kept me Ok for 5 hours approx. then it all came back.. My heart was ” Dropping Base” Blood pressure high. Got through it

    2nd day after.. 30 MG & Xanax

    Helped about the same. I started seeing stuff that was not there… BUGS???

    3rd day.. 30 MG + 1/2 bar Xanax

    Better, not high.. but it lasted the day. I split it up into 2x regimens. Mild hallucinations. Chills but nothing like they were,. Still not feeling well though

    4th day.. 30 MG 1/2 bar

    WORSE Than 2nd Day.. what happened, IDK I am not a doctor!

    5 th day 20 MG + 1/2 Bar.

    A lot better but still don’t feel well. No high at all ( I am not seeking a high! just relief)

    6 th day. 20 mg 1/4 Bar,

    Better no high but was functioning still yucky but it’s better. I see a light at the end! I was told 2 weeks! Half WAY there!

    7 th day.. I cut the 20 mg to 15 for the day and 1/4 bar.

    Little harder just keep busy.. GOT to keep my mind off of it! Stay away from home if can. Feel out of my element but… it’s better than going back. Almost there!!! Feeling Proud!

    8 th day cut again no Xanax! Better.. living with it …

    9 th day better than before.. It’s coming to an end

    10th day cut 3-5 MG off every day after… DONE!

    It’s OK again. I am not perfect feeling. This is my 3rd week! Let me say that it’s going away…Is gone & I am learning to be sober again or whatever it is.. BUT The pain is over! That is how I did it. I am functional & getting back to my life… the right way with NO DANG DRUGS IN MY SYSYEM, I am over them! Period!
    Again, I am writing this in the means to help not to hurt! Its like a SEX talk.. Yes, wait till your married. If you don’t, protect yourself.. kind of thing! People are going to do no matter what! The issue here is to be safe. If anyone is scared about becoming addicted to opiates again… DO NOT ATTEMPT & go to the Rehab!

    NO it’s not right! I know that there are a lot of illegal users on here looking to stop! SEEK a professional! Don’t do anything illegal! I would suggest that if you are taking steps like this, even if it’s illegal at least call a doctor & get advice through this. A pharmacy may help you too. It is dangerous to attempt by yourself! Let them label you! Who cares! You know you! You just want to be clean & cant afford withdrawal or a rehab.. I get it. That is ME!
    So, this is what worked for me! NOT saying it will work for you. I do hope this helps clarify any confusion on stopping this terrible drug that should have not been given to us addicts! I feel that it was an experiment that went wrong! ( Who best to test this crap on, right?… Junkies!)
    Good luck to anyone out there trying to get your life back. It’s hard but you have it in you. No matter how you stop this, just remember it’s a war you CAN win! You just have to let go of that stuff! You have the ability! Do you want your life back? If so get it!
    There is NO easy route. Just take a route, though. It is better to be clean & you will be happy afterwards! You will feel a huge sense of accomplishment! I promise!
    Don’t stay on this longer than you have to.. any of it!
    ANNON..

    • Add this to the drink that I said, I’d post! This was one of the ingredients and I forgot it. potassium … Everything mixed was a powder form 🙂

    • Thank you so much for sharing your story, TheOtherGal. I’d like to further discuss some of the information you’ve shared, and ask for your advice. I’d prefer to do so privately. I’m not really familiar with this site, but is there a way we could email or private message. Thanks again, so much!

  11. I have just been there! I have toddlers too! It’s so hard! Whatever you do … don’t get back on them! I understand you & the need to function! Your in my prayers!

  12. Thank you! I have finally seen advice in here about the right things to take that are safe! it means so much! I am printing this out to help me through my next steps in life! Your share means so much! Taking the time out for all is a wonderful things to do! <3 God Bless you too!

  13. Your not alone! The person that made a comment about the vitamins made a good one. Get in it!! they said it well. I am on week 3 now.. IT will get better!

  14. Good luck because hell will be nothing compared to what your going to go thru .After 7 years you have to drop your dose a little at a time I was told anyone on it for 2 years or more should take a year to come off it..

  15. Reading this made me laugh my ass off even doe I’m in so much pain.I have been doing H and every drug under the sun for the last 8 years since i was 19 and it sucks.Now I’m sitting in my room at 530 am while my entire family is sleeping and resting and look at me a zombie.I have gotten of drugs before cold turkey and i know this is gonna sound ridicules but i moved in with my brother and his wife (neither ever knew i did any drugs) took my iPhone broke it in pieces so that i couldn’t contact anyone and i stopped with out feeling ANY withdrawals at all.I mean i was doing heroin and subs would switch them up one day one the other day the other.But as an addict after i got clean and was doing really good even signed up at local gym few hours every day i ran into a friend of mine in the parking lot and like a fucking idiot he offered me a line and for some reason i took it and started it back up.Now its way harder since the retard that sells lives right next door but i took my last quarter of sub on friday at 9am and its now monday 540am and it sucks.I spent all night looking for remedies and tips on how to ease the shitty feeling but nothing.My biggest problem is the damn restless legs and headache.I also yawn like a zilion times a day but can’t even sleep for a min.But the reason i decided to write this is because i found something that helps me with the head problems.I know this is gonna sound crazy but i made coffee and it took all my headache away along with the legs not being able to stretch thing.Not just reg coffee but real 100% coffee (I’m bosnian) we drink pure coffee but now i have the problem not being able to sleep lol.so if u want help with some of the symptoms but then again you wont be able to sleep so your screwed either way.i thin me writing this took my mind off this shit so ill just go back to the bath tub play with the duckies maybe i get tired.Fuck the Suboxen clinics and their “help”This is from the devil.Id take withdrawals from heroin any day over this bullshit.For the peeps in withdrawal right now i think there isn’t any other way honestly other then just saying fuck it and deal with the symptoms.People don’t realize how bad we have it but its our own fault .I think i gotten up and dressed 18 times in last 5 hours to go get some lol but i refuse to believe that a strip from the devil is stronger then i am.Keep ya head up my outcasts and pray to god because you will be calling his name ALOT lol.

  16. I have been on subs for a year.12 mgs a day. Some one stole my meds and I am gonna be without subs for 4 days. What should I expect please help I am very nervous

  17. Hey everyone,I was hooked on the oxys as of 2013.I just Recently had in injury over the summer so it got worse after that.. I then got subutex to replace. I just recent was taking the crumb ish of a piece to get off of it completely cause I’m so done with pills. It’s a life ruiner! Today makes 72 hours that I haven’t touch anything. I figured I was tapered down enough to just stop. I Still feel a little crumby but it’s only when it’s time for bed. During the day I do whatever I can to keep busy. RLS. Hard time sleeping. Just toss and turn. Can’t get comfortable get a weird feeling in my arm… Any idea how long the WD’s last.
    I only took the sub for about 5 months? But any info will help!

  18. For any one reading this. Suboxone is by far the worst drug to withdrawal from, cause unlike other drugs that get better over time, suboxone actually gets worse. I have withdrawn from this shit twice n it sucks. The first time i had abused it by taking anywhere from 8mg to 16mgs a day for a 3weeks. After i ran out i was like ok now i guess ill stay clean. I obviously had no clue what i was in for. Even though i only took it for about 3weeks it was hell. The rls is by far the worst. I also didnt sleep for 10days. After like the 5th day of no sleep i ended up buying a xanax off a friend cause they helped me sleep before. So that night i took a xanax i smoked weed n i took 3 tylenol pm. I fell asleep but was wide awake in like 1 hour. I ended up taking 6more tylenol pm n maybe slept for an hour. It fn sucked n im surprised i didnt kill myself with all the sleeping pills i took. On top of this hell i was going thru i also had to go to work n deal with it. Im in construction work to so the manual labor made it even worse. All i wanted to do was call out every day but i couldnt. I def dont recommend anyone going thru this shit. In my opinion it would be better to get back on the beautiful blues n just withdrawal from those cause it only lasted 3-4 days for me. I now know almost more about subs then all those fucked up money grubbing dr’s. Anyone who reads this i dont wanna taper off the meds by anymore then .5mgs at a time because trust me u will feel it. Go from .5 for a week then go to .25 for a week n then try no alternate days of not doing one n see how u feel. I def no alot about this so if anyone has any questions feel free to ask n i promise u if i dont have an answer i wont bs ill tell u straight up i dont no

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