Comments on: The Concept of Surrender to Addiction – is it a Process or an Event? http://www.spiritualriver.com/the-concept-of-surrender-to-addiction-is-it-a-process-or-an-event/ Non-traditional recovery from addiction Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:09:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Class of June 2011 Part 5 - Page 3 - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Informationhttp://www.spiritualriver.com/the-concept-of-surrender-to-addiction-is-it-a-process-or-an-event/comment-page-1/#comment-114435 Class of June 2011 Part 5 - Page 3 - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information Sat, 23 Jul 2011 23:08:45 +0000 http://www.spiritualriver.com/?p=339#comment-114435 [...] Cherry D , congratulations !!!!! life it what happens !! our job is to make the best of it. I agree that no matter we do, we will never feel ready. We have to roll with it and make it up as we go. My eldest is 18, my youngest 15. we have had ups and downs. I am so grateful to have had the privilege of caring for them. Papa Nico. I am so glad you are here. I know one of the biggest risks for me if I relapse is not coming back.This has been a pattern in my life of avoiding difficult emotions. I hope if I am ever in that situation I have the courage you have shown in your commitment to our little family. It is 8am Sunday morning here. I am up and feel good. As it turns out it is day 70 for me if I complete it sober. Steamwader- I think the missing the beer thing can be worked on. It has been different for me this time around. The romanticisation of alcohol that persisted in my previous attempts at getting sober is absent. I have thought a lot about the first three steps of AA. Basically the concepts and language were not comfortable for me. I have however worked myself to a state of "surrender". I have lost the desire to engage in the struggle with alcohol anymore. I have accepted the fact that I had no power over alcohol and that my life had become unmanageable. Step 2 I don't really understand but I have come to accept the reality that there is hope and a way forward........ but this is not possible / sustainable without the next step which I think of as 'surrender' or to phrase it another way 'a commitment to take what comes with a full engagement'. I have also found that a daily practice of gratitude has (bizarrely.....and to my disbelief) given me a real buzz, which more than compensates for the bliss and oblivion I used to seek in alcohol. As for the other steps I am still searching for my defects of character (LOL). This website may explain surrender a bit better The Concept of Surrender to Addiction – is it a Process or an Event? [...] [...] Cherry D , congratulations !!!!! life it what happens !! our job is to make the best of it. I agree that no matter we do, we will never feel ready. We have to roll with it and make it up as we go. My eldest is 18, my youngest 15. we have had ups and downs. I am so grateful to have had the privilege of caring for them. Papa Nico. I am so glad you are here. I know one of the biggest risks for me if I relapse is not coming back.This has been a pattern in my life of avoiding difficult emotions. I hope if I am ever in that situation I have the courage you have shown in your commitment to our little family. It is 8am Sunday morning here. I am up and feel good. As it turns out it is day 70 for me if I complete it sober. Steamwader- I think the missing the beer thing can be worked on. It has been different for me this time around. The romanticisation of alcohol that persisted in my previous attempts at getting sober is absent. I have thought a lot about the first three steps of AA. Basically the concepts and language were not comfortable for me. I have however worked myself to a state of "surrender". I have lost the desire to engage in the struggle with alcohol anymore. I have accepted the fact that I had no power over alcohol and that my life had become unmanageable. Step 2 I don't really understand but I have come to accept the reality that there is hope and a way forward…….. but this is not possible / sustainable without the next step which I think of as 'surrender' or to phrase it another way 'a commitment to take what comes with a full engagement'. I have also found that a daily practice of gratitude has (bizarrely…..and to my disbelief) given me a real buzz, which more than compensates for the bliss and oblivion I used to seek in alcohol. As for the other steps I am still searching for my defects of character (LOL). This website may explain surrender a bit better The Concept of Surrender to Addiction – is it a Process or an Event? [...]

]]> By: Patrickhttp://www.spiritualriver.com/the-concept-of-surrender-to-addiction-is-it-a-process-or-an-event/comment-page-1/#comment-18487 Patrick Tue, 26 Aug 2008 00:28:59 +0000 http://www.spiritualriver.com/?p=339#comment-18487 Hi there Mr. Twenty I would agree that if you can empower people to develop a creative vision, then drugs will no longer be a problem. The problem is in getting the addict or alcoholic to that point. I was so miserable when I finally got clean and sober that I didn't care about you, myself, or anyone else. I was sick and tired and I was almost ready to die. It's a miracle that I stuck around long enough to get to a point where things like goals and vision really mattered to me again. The solution is actually pretty well defined: a creative vision of recovery, a life of empowerment, achieving goals, reaching out to others, and so on. The problem is getting there. And helping people to get there. That's what this website is about. Thanks for your comment! Hi there Mr. Twenty

I would agree that if you can empower people to develop a creative vision, then drugs will no longer be a problem.

The problem is in getting the addict or alcoholic to that point. I was so miserable when I finally got clean and sober that I didn’t care about you, myself, or anyone else. I was sick and tired and I was almost ready to die. It’s a miracle that I stuck around long enough to get to a point where things like goals and vision really mattered to me again.

The solution is actually pretty well defined: a creative vision of recovery, a life of empowerment, achieving goals, reaching out to others, and so on.

The problem is getting there. And helping people to get there.

That’s what this website is about. Thanks for your comment!

]]> By: Mr. Twenty Twentyhttp://www.spiritualriver.com/the-concept-of-surrender-to-addiction-is-it-a-process-or-an-event/comment-page-1/#comment-18459 Mr. Twenty Twenty Mon, 25 Aug 2008 05:45:05 +0000 http://www.spiritualriver.com/?p=339#comment-18459 Wake up Buckwheat!

It’s not about addiction!

It’s about helping kids and adults have goals and dreams that make them feel good.

It’s about living life based on principles that would never allow the thought of taking drugs become an issue.

It’s about bringing your personal power HOME.

How many commercials train people to think that they NEED something “out there” to feel good?

How many politicians tell people that the government, a power “out there” is the solution?

We need to teach our teens that the most powerful factor in their lives is themselves!

Bring the power home!

Choose powerful principles to live by!

Develop strong exciting goals and dreams to live for!

And drugs won’t ever be a problem.

Think about it!

Mr. Twenty Twenty
http://www.thevcode.com

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