I happen to work in a drug rehab center so I see an awful lot of Hydrocodone addiction.� To be quite honest I believe the number of opiate users we treat is now exceeding the number of alcoholics that come in, if you can believe that.� Prescription painkillers seem to be the new drug of choice these days. �Is Hydrocodone addictive? �You bet it is.
Hydrocodone is a synthetic opiate that is slightly more powerful than Codeine (as measured by the opiate molecules strength in binding to opiate receptors in the human brain).� Some of the common brand names for Hydrocodone are Vicodin, Lorcet, Lortab, and Norco.� Doctors prescribe it for all sorts of different issues and it tends to work really well for most types of pain.� Too well in fact, because many people can and do get addicted to it.� This makes for a complicated situation because now you have a drug addiction that is actually there for a specific reason: to medicate a person’s physical pain.
So one of the major questions becomes: if you are trying to overcome Hydrocodone addiction, how are you going to manage your pain?� What are you going to do when your body is suffering and in pain?
Managing pain without opiates
It is important to understand the difference between opiate based painkillers and other medications.� When you take a medicine such as Ibuprofen, the medicine actually works to help reduce the pain right at the source of the pain.� It does this by reducing inflammation and swelling in the body.� So it literally goes to the source of your physical pain and makes it smaller.
With an opiate drug (such as Hydrocodone), there is no such reduction in pain.� In fact, the medicine does not really reduce pain at all.� What it does is it simply dopes the human brain so that it does not care about the pain as much.� The pain is still there.� But if you are taking Hydrocodone, the effect that the drug has is that it makes it so that you don’t pay as much attention to the pain.
If your pain is a ringing alarm clock with bells, then taking an opiate is like sticking a rag in between the bells.� It simply dulls the ringing.� It does not reduce the pain itself though.
So if you understand this then you can see how any condition that results in chronic pain should really be treated with something other than an opiate drug.� If the physical pain you are experiencing is temporary (or very short term), then taking an opiate might work out pretty well.� But if your pain is chronic (or longer lasting), then taking an opiate is not going to help you in the long run.
So if you are trying to get off of an opiate drug, then you need to have a plan for how you are going to manage your pain without using addictive painkillers.� You might start experimenting with alternative ways of treating your pain before you even try to get off the opiates, so that you are more prepared in how you will deal with the pain.� For example, you might look into some of these ideas for managing pain without addictive drugs:
1) TENS units.
2) Using non-narcotic painkillers (ask your doctor for details).
3) Meditation and relaxation techniques
4) Massage.
5) Acupuncture.
And so on.� If you start experimenting right now with these sorts of ideas, your chances at staying clean and sober will increase because you will be better able to handle the pain when you are no longer using opiates.� If you are struggling to make progress in this area, you might consider going to a pain clinic or finding a different doctor who is more accommodating.

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Options for dealing with Vicodin addiction
There are a few different ways that you might treat Vicodin addiction. One thing that you might do is to simply check into a residential rehab center that has a medical detox. This is usually expensive but it might be the best option for most people.
Another form of treatment is to use drug therapy. So an addict might switch to a medication such as Suboxone in order to treat their addiction to Vicodin. Some would argue that this is not much better, as you are still ingesting an opiate based drug. However, the abuse potential of Suboxone is much lower than that of hydrocodone, so this is still a decent option for some people. Most people who have a short term addiction to hydrocodone will not need drug therapy like this, however. But it can be useful for some people who suffer from severe chronic pain issues, as the Suboxone will help treat their chronic pain as well.
Obviously, Vicodin addicts who are dealing with these types of questions will want to speak with a doctor at great length and carefully weigh their options before making any decisions.
Hydrocodone dosage
Typical hydrocodone doses range from taking one per day as needed, all the way up to taking 1 to 2 tablets every 4 to 6 hours, usually not to exceed 8 tablets in a 24 hour period. Most hydrocodone addicts eventually start consuming more of the drug than these recommended dosages, however. This can become dangerous, too, for people with liver problems, because of the potential for taking too much Acetaminophen as well.
Of course you will want to check with your doctor as to what dose you should be taking in the first place, and you would not want to exceed their recommendation. Anyone who deliberately does so runs the risk of developing dependence from abusing the drug by taking a higher dosage.
Hydrocodone detox
Detoxing from hydrocodone will produce typical opiate withdrawal symptoms, that normally resemble a case of the flu. Sweats and chills, upset stomach (including possible cramps, nausea, or diarrhea), anxiety, tremors, and dilated pupils may all be present during detox. These symptoms can best be treated in a drug rehab center with a synthetic opiate drug called Suboxone. The person can then be tapered off of the Suboxone in a matter of days and experience very little discomfort throughout the entire process.
Some people seeking detox from opiates may look to a newer method called ultra rapid detox. This is where they put you under and then flush your body from all opiates, detoxing you in a matter of hours rather than days. It sounds nice but there are a lot of problems with it at this early stage, and it is prohibitively expensive in many cases. Plus there is no guarantee that the person will stay clean.
Typical hydrocodone addiction symptoms
The symptoms of hydrocodone addiction may include:
1) Abusing the drug, taking more quantity than what is prescribed.
2) Hiding, stealing, or hoarding supply. Keeping amounts taken a secret. Stashing pills.
3) Buying pills off the street or manipulating doctors to get more.
4) Inventing injuries or illnesses to get more supply, deliberately hurting oneself to get more pills.
There are other symptoms as well but basically if you cannot stop taking the drug on your own (and you want to) then that is a strong sign of dependence.
Some signs of hydrocodone addiction
If you suspect someone in your life of being addicted to hydrocodone, then watch for the above symptoms, and also:
1) Lying about how much they have taken or how many pills they have left.
2) Hiding pills or sneaking them around, protecting supply.
3) Nodding off from taking way to much of the drug.
4) Withdrawal symptoms when they don’t have pills left.
5) Obsession on getting more pills, especially when running low on supply.
Hydrocodone withdrawal
As mentioned above, the withdrawal symptoms of hydrocodone will typically resemble the flu. This will generally last from about 3 to 5 days, and sometimes it will stretch out a bit longer than this, depending on the person and also on how much they have been taking and how long they have been abusing opiates. Detox in a drug rehab center can really help the addict to get through the discomfort, because they can treat the withdrawal using medication without allowing the addict to become addicted to the medicine. People who fear becoming addicted to another medication are just using an excuse to avoid getting clean and sober. Drug rehabs do not resort to drug therapy and get addicts hooked on new medicines. This is a bunch of crap. Instead, they taper you down and when you walk out of the door, you do it completely clean and sober, not addicted to anything.
Hydrocodone overdose
It is possible to overdose on Hydrocodone, especially since it is usually (but not always) packaged with Acetaminophen. Of course the opiate itself is a going to depress the nervous system and at some point just the opiate alone would become lethal if enough of it were taken. All opiates carry some risk of overdose and hydrocodone is no different in this regard. Those who are abusing the drug and dependent on it obviously run a greater risk of having this happen.
Hydrocodone side effects
Anyone can experience any number of different side effects when taking just about any medication, but most people who use hydrocodone at normal dosages do not experience any major problems. If you do, obviously, you should talk with your doctor. If you happen to be taking more than the prescribed dosage and are abusing hydrocdone, then the obvious answer is to get some help and stop abusing the drug so that undesired side effects will no longer occur.
Some of these side effects might include:
1) Being nervous or anxious.
2) Getting dizzy.
3) Dry mouth.
4) Heart burn.
5) Sweats.
6) Trouble sleeping.
7) Not eating as much.
8) Feeling weak.
Obviously if you have any adverse effects that are really bothersome, consult your doctor.
Getting through withdrawal
Depending on how much your body is addicted to the Hydrocodone, you may want to go to a treatment center in order to get fully detoxed from the drug.� Most drug rehabs that have a medical detox unit will be able to treat your withdrawal symptoms from the Hydrocodone with their own medications.� In other words, they will help to make the withdrawal process a lot more comfortable than if you simply went off of the medication cold turkey.
The best way to get through any withdrawal is to sleep through it.� Depending on how severe your symptoms are, this may or may not be possible.� Also, if you suffer from a great deal of physical pain, this will make it more difficult to sleep when you are going through withdrawal from Hydrocodone.� These are the types of factors you will need to consider when deciding if you need to actually go to a drug rehab in order to get off the drug.
Basically, if you have easy access to opiates, and you are going through very heavy withdrawals, then it is going to be almost impossible for you to get off the drug without getting some sort of help.� If you try to do so and fail several times, you might want to look into the possibility of going to treatment for it.� There is no shame in going to drug rehab.� They can help you get through the withdrawals and possibly even help you learn how to start managing your pain.
If you’ve been using narcotics to manage your pain for a long time, or if you just use opiate based drugs for fund and recreation in your life, then it’s going to take quite a large effort in order to become clean and sober and to really make it stick.� Like with any addiction, there are at least 2 distinct stages to overcoming Hydrocodone addiction: early recovery and long term recovery.
In early recovery, you are basically focusing on the immediate problem of getting off the pills and learning how to live a life without narcotics again.� This stage of recovery can last anywhere from a few months to several months, depending on the person.� If you ask for help, get professional treatment of some sort, and start interacting with a strong support system on a regular basis, then you might very well be entering the second phase of your recovery in less than a year.� Of course, this is all about action.� You have to initiate these positive changes in your life and actually follow through with them in order to establish a successful recovery.
Long term recovery from Hydrocodone addiction
Moving into long term recovery happens naturally as your life gets “back on track.”� By now you will have found alternative ways to handle any physical pain, and you will no longer struggle to make it through each day without using drugs.� But this does not mean that there is no threat of relapse.� There will always be the possibility there to tempt you.� The key, therefore, becomes constant vigilance in your life when it comes to putting drugs into your body.� You have to adopt a zero tolerance policy when it comes to narcotics and addictive drugs.
Anyone who has successfully kicked an opiate addiction but ends up relapsing over and over again needs to find a new way to live.� This is the cycle of addiction and the only way to defeat it is to get clean and sober (physically detox from the drugs) and then find a way to live drug free so that you are satisfied with your life.� If you are restless, irritable, discontent, bored, or uninspired then chances are you will end up relapsing eventually.� In this case the opiate addict can either follow a program of recovery (such as the 12 step program) or design their own program of recovery and create a new life for themselves.� Either way, they need to take action and start living a drug free live of passion and purpose if they want to remain clean in the long run.
If you or someone you know is suffering from Hydrocodone addiction then I would recommend professional help.� If you cannot quit on your own and make it last then you need to ask for help. Inpatient treatment or professional counseling are both good starting points. Go into either with an open mind and you can find a new way to live.
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Karen,
Yep, it doesn’t take very long to get dependent on this stuff. Just a few months (or even weeks) can apparently feel like years, so hang in there. You’re pretty darn close to the end of it!
Jerrell,
Awesome work on the hydro. That you can have it sitting around and not take it is incredible to me.
As for the Xanax, I don’t think there is a quick fix, unfortunately. It might be that your doc is right, and that now might not be the time to get off of it. Personally, from that point of view, I would think you have to MAKE it the right time or no time would ever be right. I dunno — I’m no professional on that.
One thing I found helpful in getting off Klonopin was saying to myself that stepping back up on a dose would relieve my symptoms, but my goal was to just be done, so I’d stay on whatever level dose I was on for as LONG as it took before I felt I could take another step down. I know I’ve said that before, but maybe reiteration helps. I know how hard it is — much harder to beat than the hydro, in my opinion. It took me a year of wanting and trying to quit before I found a method that worked for me and was successful with it.
Anxiety will always be there, but the overwhelming feeling you’re getting from trying to quit the Xanax almost certainly due to the withdrawal, and does subside. Just take it super slow — that’s the most important part. It’s not a quick ride — I’d say it takes at least several months. So don’t get discouraged, and DON’T resign yourself to thinking you’ll have to just take it the rest of your life. That mindset is harmful, and one I had for a long time. You’ll get it, man — I’ve got 100% confidence in that.
Hi every one i hope this finds you all doing well…As for me I’m doing okay not as good as I wish that I was but,I will make it back to where I was.For the most part has been good I have to be honest there have been A few days that I have slipped.I know that I have to forgive my self and move on but wow is it shameful.I did talk to my Dr, I have an appt. on Fri. he’s talking about me using something called colonadine(not sure if that is spelled correct)but it’s not like methodone or any thing the Dr. says people are usually off of it in A short period of time it is something strictly for the withdraws.So we’ll see how that works for me I didn’t want to have to take anything to get off of something but my Dr. says it’s non addictive and very safe.I know that I have to do some thing cause when the cravings kick in it is something I almost have know control over and I don’t like that.So if I have to try something like that I have to do whatever I have to do to help my self.In the mean time I’m glad that all is doing pretty well and that’s Awesome.Thank you Michael for caring and being so kind.I know that I will make it back where I left but it surely is nice to know that there is someone out there that has been where I’m at right now and not judgemental just caring that is really nice and means alot so Thank you again,I’ll keep you all up dated on how I’m doing….
Michelle,
Thanks for the update! You’ve got your head in the right place — you’ve had it there all along. You’ll get through this because you’re determined and you’re strong. I just did some very quick research on Clonidine, and it does look very safe. It seems to have no abuse potential, and doesn’t cause any addiction. I think it will really help if taken as directed, so that’s awesome.
Hang in there, and you’ll pull through it!
Hello everyone,
Hope you are all doing well.
I’m not doing so good right now. I need to get my head on straight again. I don’t even want to talk about it right now but wanted to check in with you all.
Have a wonderful day everyone.
Michelle,
We all support you in getting to where you want to be free of opiates. We will be here to help anyway we can I am glad you are with a MD. Remember it is your body and you are its keeper. We are here for you.WE CAN DO THIS..
T,
Please get rid of all tempataions. We have good days and bad days We just need to roll with the punches. Now is the time to be strong and not give into our addiction. Good luck !!! WE CAN DO THIS
Thanks M, trying to get back on track!
Hi every one i feel so stupid i was 5 days clean and i found 2 hydros so i toke them they did not even make me feel good i hope its not going to start that craving again has any one taken the withdralls pills advertised on this page good luck to every one fighting this evil addiction
I am trying so hard to get back on track but,unfortunately I’m not doing so well and very depressed.I don’t even know how to control this any more.I thought i was through with this shit and obviously I’m not.I feel like I’m trying and all at the same time I’m getting know where.Any advice my MD gave me some stuff for withdraws but,I don’t even want to take them alls I want is A hydro and don’t know how to stop this feeling.I’m so confused and don’t know what to do.I feel more addicted this time than when I got over them before that sounds crazy I know but it’s so true.
Patrick,
I’m not sure to which withdrawal pills you’re referring, but there are some decent medical options to help even out the edges of withdrawals.
Michelle,
Take a deep breath. And another. Bring your mind into this very moment — don’t think about anything from before this moment, or anything that might be after this moment. All that matters and exists is right now, right here.
Now, you sound like your depression is being fed by a hopeless feeling, and I totally get that. You’ve got a chemical depression from the hydro, and you feel like you aren’t going to be able to claw your way out, or that doing so AGAIN would be insurmountable, which is giving you a situational depression as well.
You need help, Michelle, and you need to understand that the only way to get through this, for good, is with support. You might get clean for a while, but you’ll never be able to keep it that way without some long-term support in place. I’m not urging rehab, though it might be a good option for you. If you can get clean with your doctor’s help and by taking the medication, then for the love of God, please do.
Your next step is NA. Find yourself a meeting. I’ve not gone to NA before, but I’ve heard wonderful things and seen lives totally transformed. Here’s a link to a site where you can search for a meeting near you:
http://www.na.org/index.php?ID=home-content-fm
Get clean, then stay clean. There is HOPE for you — plenty of it. You just have to swallow your pride, let go of worrying what someone else might think of you, and admit that you’ve got to seek out help. There is absolutely no shame in doing so. In fact, you know as well as I that the easy thing to do is to deny it.
Please do that, Michelle. Do it for your daughter, do it for us, but most critically, do it for yourself. You can’t be the world’s greatest mom unless you can start healing yourself.
I think the only way i am going to keep clean is with outside help i do not want to keep doing this for the rest of my life i am going to check out N / A so i am with people that understand what i am going though i had 7 weeks and then started again so i know i have to do something difference
Hi all. I wanted to intoduce myself I’m “lee” and I’ve been taking hydrocodone for 10+ years. I’m dependent on the meds to function in society. I’m in constant pain and always feel bad. Here’s the thing, I know I shouldn’t take this med as much as I do(7 1/2 a day) but I don’t wanna stop I actually ike it. Am I crazy?! Why can’t I just say I wanna stop and try to quit? Am I just not ready? I feel guilty saying all that but guys its true and I’m disgusted with myself for not wanting to stop. I like the benefits it does give me. Please be very honest and give me your opinion as to what my major malfunction is that I like this so much. Why don’t I wanna stop? Is that normal? I’m getting older ( I’m 32) and have been on it since I was 21. I have multiple medical issues and see only one doctor for meds. But I feel wrong by having this prescription. Please help me!!! Maybe I can’t be helped I don’t know. Thanks for letting me rant guys.
Welcome Lee,
We all love the feeling we get from hydro’s. That’s why we get addicted. I’m surprised that you are still getting the “high” from it since you have been using for 10 years. Your body eventually gets immune to the drug and requires more and more just to function and feel “normal”. I think you don’t want to stop because you don’t know that you will feel normal without them. Yes you do have to go through a few days of intense discomfort but after that you realize there is life after drugs and it’s great. You begin to feel normal without the drug and start loving life again and wanting to do things and go places being clean. Once you get your head clear you realize how bad and destructive the pills are and how you are killing yourself slowly.
Now with that being said I must confess that I have relapsed this past week because I thought I loved them too and felt like I could do a few and get away with it. WRONG! I am now back to square one and so frightened thinking of getting off again but I know I have to, not only for myself but my wonderful family. The first day or so of relapse I enjoyed it but did have to take the same amount I did when I stopped. I went over a month with being clean and felt wonderful, I was enjoying life more than I had in several years. The mind games kept playing in my head telling me I was free and could do a few. I’m afraid I’ve reset the clock in my brain and have to start all over again. You really can’t have temptation around, as strong as you might think you are it will always suck you back in if you give it a chance. I’m so sorry to have let everyone down on this site and am hoping soon I can overcome this again and come back to encourage the rest of you. For now my words may not mean anything since I’ve fallen but to those of you who are still on the right track please don’t let your mind tell you that you can do a few, you can’t even do one. I’m hoping my misery with this will help someone else to learn not to go back to the miserable old life of addiction. Keep up the great work you all!
Patrick,
Please do get that external help. It would mean a lot to me if you did, and, most importantly, it will help you get your life back on track and to where you want it!
Lee,
You’re describing an old pickle I’m not sure I’ve got a grasp on. Untreated pain is terrible — it’s got the ability to really remove all enjoyment from life. On the other hand, abusing drugs will do the very same thing. But, are abusing? Just because you like it doesn’t mean you’re abusing it. I think it’s probably a very small percentage of people who take it who DON’T like it, to be honest. I think being an addict, so to speak, involves much more than just liking it. Signs include lying to others about it, manipulating others to get it (your doctor, for example), getting in fights with loved ones over it, etc. Being dependent upon it and liking it doesn’t mean that you’re an addict.
Bring it up with your doc and be COMPLETELY honest with him. It’s such a varied and dynamic condition that none of us are qualified to diagnose.
T,
Relax! You’re OK, my friend! First, you want to reduce any withdrawals as much as you can, then stop now. Trust me, if you stop now, it won’t be as bad as it was initially. If you keep going, it will be worse.
Next, you’ve only set your brain back as much as you’ve been using again. You don’t start over — you just didn’t heal this past week. You might be set back a little, but don’t let the fear of withdrawals keep you from stopping. Yeah, you might have a little stomach problem, and might feel kinda crappy for a day, but if you stop now, it’ll be nothing compared to before. Then you can let your mind and body keep healing!
Third, you’ve let no one down. Your confession speaks VOLUMES. Like I’ve said with Patrick and Michelle, this happens. I’ve relapsed — everyone who tries to get clean has. The important part is to catch it and continue with recovery. Just get clean again, and then you can think about what comes next later.
Bro Lee,
Not knowing your medical history, its hard to determine why you abuse opiates. However You are on an online forum asking for help.. So..what does that mean? I interpret this as a call for help. It appears you are a junkie, and yes you are ready to stop abusing opiates. The question is do you want to live a long healthy life or possibly have a short sickly life due to the effects of long term drug,(tylenol) use.Have you had y ourliver enzymes evaluated lately? Ask your MD (the one who is writing 225 tabs a month) if he knows what your current levels are. Bro Lee, I know exactly where you are in life. Got it all under control..getting what you want… and doing it while the pain is there…..I can do anything… and if I chug a beer or two I can do it better….. Just wait…something is going to happen,… someone close dies. you get popped and have a couple of pills on you, get DUI and go to can,… and you know what …it wont bother you a bit…. Ill just take a pill, and that episode is over. Thats when you really understand that you are numbed up to llife..and the only thing that matters is if you got the pills.
To finish. figure if you are willing to do something positive..Get a friend, a real friend not an enabler. and some immodium, tylenol, ibuprophen,and ambein. and get over to a life without opiates. I would suggest a second opinion (for your med conditions) with another MD. (someone writing 225 tabs a mo isnt helping you quit opiates.) read past postings to find ways to combat pain without opiates. I know it works I did this after 43 years of addiction to opiates. and always remember …..WE CAN DO THIS
Thank you so much for your support! Even though I don’t know you all personally I have a very special place in my heart for you. It’s wonderful to be able to talk openly to you all.
Well so far today has been a horrible day alot of crying and in the bed all day.i feel like my whole world is crumbling around me and I can’t stop it from happening.i can’t believe i’ve let my self crawl back into this position again.The Dr. has prescribed me colonodine which usually treats high blood pressure but also used for opiate withdraw but I’m scared to take it I don’t like new things and I just have the fear of it lowering my blood pressure to much.I feel so alone and don’t know what to do any more.I’m tired of feeling this way this is just to much there has got to be away to get away from this drug if I only knew how.I’m not trying to feel sorry for my self but i just don’t know how to do this any more.I was almost A year clean and I feel like i’m right back where I started from if not worse.i only hope tomorrow is A better day.Thanks Michael,for the support N/A sounds good but i’m really ashamed to put my self out there like that.I know I shouldn’t be but still there is one part of me that says I’m an awful person and I can’t even stand to be around my self.Hope the best for all of you.
Oh Michelle I feel so bad for you, and scared for me. I have to bite the bullet and go through a couple of miserable days also. You know it won’t be long before you feel better and I believe you will be stronger than ever, you will think twice before relapsing again, I know I will. Please hang in there and remember how good you felt and how wonderful life was being clean. Read your older posts of when you were feeling good. I will be praying for you and please pray for me also. I don’t know how I let myself get here again but it’s a strong reminder that I don’t want to be here. We are all in this together so stay strong! Like M says “WE CAN DO THIS”
Good morning all,
I had a hell of a bad night..must have been the weather. During the night I looked back again at the past posts and noticed we are very close to having some classic withdrawal nightmares cycled into cyberspace.The chronicle of Jim J is number 3 and my favorite. So if you need or want to and i suggest it highly. Read the Past Posts. Maybe we can voluntarily delete some of our posts that arent so critical to over coming opiate addiction. I know Im willing to do anything I can to help anyone get past the early stages of withdrawal and to be free of opiate addiction. Maybe the moderator of the page has some answer, I would like to have the history preserved..
Michelle,
I know you can do this so please get going and be healthy, we need and want your help.
Michelle
i know how you feel i have been trying to get off this stuff for three years the first time was six weeks
then seven weeks now i have three days i tell my self lets try again i will get there and i will not beat my self up when i fail you helped me to get seven weeks when i started in december of last year my addiction is not my fault if i did not have pain i would have never taken hydros when my doctor gave me the pills i had no idea what they were i know now a little bit late
Well,what a weekend this has been….i just can not believe I let myself get back here.I’m about to go crazy haven’t used anything since Friday night but i feel like I’m gonna jump outta my skin.I know I have to get over this soon cause my oldest Daughters senior prom is coming up soon and her graduation all that I want to be memorable moments.I have know idea what to do any more I sit here and cry just feeling sorry for myself at that’s not right.I just honestly don’t know how to do this any more I have never been addicted to any thing like this it is so strong.Patrick i knew that I was taking them for the pep of energy they give to me.But I never knew that they would be so mind controlling and grab on to me like they have.There has got to be a way I just don’t know yet what to do.Hopefully this day will get better as it passes I hope so I can’t take this feeling…
Hey Lady its time to start being glad because you are so far into this its time to think about pulling up and regroup to the offense. You can do this and are well on the way to getting free from opiates. We are all pulling for you and look for your input. WE CAN DO THIS.
Michelle,
I know how you feel believe me! I’m stupid, stupid, stupid. Good learning experience for next time we have temptation!
Hey
I am at 28 hours and am currently sweating lol. Just sat here on the couch for the last three hours reading all your posts! Thanks for the encouragement. I do suffer with chronic pain and doc gives me a script but I can never make them last. I called them lying to get more early they refused so I’m commiting to stopping. Could have slept today but wanted to save for tonite. Thanks for the support glad not alone cuz I feel alone.
Jenea,
Welcome and you are definately not alone!
Been reading this thread since this morning and it surely helps ! I’ve been doing 10/325, 3-4 a day for over a year and half and Just started 4-5 days ago to go on a Detox by myself and reading here has helped me understand what to expect and believe me i’m feeling skin crawling, bones, tiredness, fatigue, don’t want to go out, diarrhea, etc. staying in bed, I do have a chronic pain condition due to 2 failed spinal surgeries, I’m thankful for others posting here so I now know what to expect and for how long I have to go- Thanks All
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