Comments on: Help Alcoholics Recover through Creation http://www.spiritualriver.com/help-alcoholics-recover-through-creation/ Non-traditional recovery from addiction Thu, 09 Feb 2012 11:09:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Mark Ratnerhttp://www.spiritualriver.com/help-alcoholics-recover-through-creation/comment-page-1/#comment-84133 Mark Ratner Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:23:26 +0000 http://www.spiritualriver.com/?p=473#comment-84133 Hello, One if the two single greatest problems I have endured is 1. My feeling of AA as more cult like or a social club for those who need companionship. 2. Being alone in either mentally, spiritually, or physical leaves the temptation that is as close as five minutes away and is legal. After 20 years of on / off sobriety from alcohol I find myself right back in the same old situation. What to do to pass the time. Short cold and gloomy days, nothing to do really. Eat bad food and drink beer and sit on my behind. Not exactly what you describe as something I'm passionate about yet it is escapism from my dreadful and uneventful life. In short I have nothing to be passionate about. Some DTs will involve loss of muscle control. Very painful. I understand this is do to a poor diet and a lack of electrolytes. Maybe. I have had about enough of Doctors that stare at me and give the gloom and doom and say "Take this pill or that." Isn't the whole point to eliminate foreign substances from our bodies? To see, as you explain, a desire or passion that is stronger than the desire to drink. Using nutrition and staying on a regular regime or health eating and exercise. Not being in a poor mental state. But staying busy enough to not have time to think of or drink. I have not been to a bar or club in almost 3 years. Yet I'm growing well over weight for my frame and the physical effects are apparent more and more. AA for me was a re-run of sad stories time after time. And there is the fact you will be judged whether they (AA) will say so or not. My goal is not a New Years resolution. I am going to eliminate processed foods and fast foods. And be modest about my goals and stay with my family for support and a change of atmosphere. If I can spend six months focused on nutrition, exercise, my only real social network at this time; my family and of course not drinking beer, wine, or anything intoxicating. The transformation should be slow yet steady and lead to long term sobriety. This concept of changing many aspects and not just one will help me defeat this on my own but using common logic and support from those I know truly care will be my strength. Thank you and to everyone know you cannot drink hope away not as long as we are alive. Hello, One if the two single greatest problems I have endured is 1. My feeling of AA as more cult like or a social club for those who need companionship. 2. Being alone in either mentally, spiritually, or physical leaves the temptation that is as close as five minutes away and is legal. After 20 years of on / off sobriety from alcohol I find myself right back in the same old situation. What to do to pass the time. Short cold and gloomy days, nothing to do really. Eat bad food and drink beer and sit on my behind. Not exactly what you describe as something I’m passionate about yet it is escapism from my dreadful and uneventful life. In short I have nothing to be passionate about. Some DTs will involve loss of muscle control. Very painful. I understand this is do to a poor diet and a lack of electrolytes. Maybe. I have had about enough of Doctors that stare at me and give the gloom and doom and say “Take this pill or that.” Isn’t the whole point to eliminate foreign substances from our bodies? To see, as you explain, a desire or passion that is stronger than the desire to drink. Using nutrition and staying on a regular regime or health eating and exercise. Not being in a poor mental state. But staying busy enough to not have time to think of or drink. I have not been to a bar or club in almost 3 years. Yet I’m growing well over weight for my frame and the physical effects are apparent more and more. AA for me was a re-run of sad stories time after time. And there is the fact you will be judged whether they (AA) will say so or not.

My goal is not a New Years resolution. I am going to eliminate processed foods and fast foods. And be modest about my goals and stay with my family for support and a change of atmosphere. If I can spend six months focused on nutrition, exercise, my only real social network at this time; my family and of course not drinking beer, wine, or anything intoxicating. The transformation should be slow yet steady and lead to long term sobriety. This concept of changing many aspects and not just one will help me defeat this on my own but using common logic and support from those I know truly care will be my strength.

Thank you and to everyone know you cannot drink hope away not as long as we are alive.

]]> By: mickhttp://www.spiritualriver.com/help-alcoholics-recover-through-creation/comment-page-1/#comment-78241 mick Wed, 17 Nov 2010 23:42:38 +0000 http://www.spiritualriver.com/?p=473#comment-78241 its great you are there to help.I was a bar manager for over 12 years drinking more and more as time went on in the end I was drinking over 90 units of alcohol a day. In June this year I suffered a seizure that nearly killed me.Most days I think I would have been better off if it had.The support and help I had from my wife was priceless I have now been dry for 5 months thanks to her help it does get easier.I wish the both of you good luck.I hope he values your help you are one special person its great you are there to help.I was a bar manager for over 12 years drinking more and more as time went on in the end I was drinking over 90 units of alcohol a day. In June this year I suffered a seizure that nearly killed me.Most days I think I would have been better off if it had.The support and help I had from my wife was priceless I have now been dry for 5 months thanks to her help it does get easier.I wish the both of you good luck.I hope he values your help you are one special person

]]> By: Patrickhttp://www.spiritualriver.com/help-alcoholics-recover-through-creation/comment-page-1/#comment-23603 Patrick Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:41:27 +0000 http://www.spiritualriver.com/?p=473#comment-23603 Hi there Anne Hopefully your nephew is doing OK...if you are worried about him in terms of the detox process you should take him to the ER immediately. Usually day 3 is the worst for most people, and seizures and even death can result. So if he starts to hallucinate or gets the shakes real bad you might consider taking him to the ER. Alcohol withdrawal can kill you. Lots of alcoholics are real nice people....I have met a ton of them and I would say 99 percent of them have been very nice. But the disease of alcoholism doesn't seem to care if you are nice or not. But I know what you are saying, it seems like a nice person like that should be able to get past this addiction. I have hope for you and your nephew. Good luck to both of you. Hi there Anne

Hopefully your nephew is doing OK…if you are worried about him in terms of the detox process you should take him to the ER immediately. Usually day 3 is the worst for most people, and seizures and even death can result. So if he starts to hallucinate or gets the shakes real bad you might consider taking him to the ER. Alcohol withdrawal can kill you.

Lots of alcoholics are real nice people….I have met a ton of them and I would say 99 percent of them have been very nice. But the disease of alcoholism doesn’t seem to care if you are nice or not. But I know what you are saying, it seems like a nice person like that should be able to get past this addiction. I have hope for you and your nephew. Good luck to both of you.

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